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 Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:53 am Post subject: Keel Hook Herring |
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I've taken Owner and Gamagatsu worm hooks and turned them into a keel/hook-up HerringPhly that works well up the estuary creeks enroute to herring runs.
Despite the tight quarters, BIG Stripes will follow the spring herring into shallow/narrow bits of secret waters all in search of StriperCandy...
Casts are maybe 15 meters max. When used with a floating line, the long hackles insinuate life "movement" even when the fly is left to its' own devices...the retrieve is a mild twitch combined with long dead drifts. The cleanly hidden keel hook is less apt to foul on grass/weeds and structure but the very WIDE gap allows for a pointy surprise when the time is right and the planets allign!
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louberrrr
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| Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:15 am Post subject: re: keel hook herring |
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Looks deadly. nice work  I want to give that fly a try around where i live.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:02 am Post subject: Colour variation... |
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Same basic scheme...
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| Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:36 am Post subject: |
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I think you've got something there  . I like that color better
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| Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:25 am Post subject: Synthetic Variations |
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SuperHair and Phlash and BigEyez...
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Penguin
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| Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:34 am Post subject: Owner Oversize 7/0 #5110-171 |
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Not nearly as disciplined and minimal as the Right Honourable Adrian Sharp's beauty...
I tend to transfer the phuzzy notion in my head onto the hook with the gradual application of the appropriate phur, pheathers, and phlash...a recipe would do me good!
This one is a bit too long but I'll tank test it before clipping adjustments are performed...
A slow retrieve or a dead drift will allow for lots of undulation and subtle bite-me movement.
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Greased Liner
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| Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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Very good. I just got an email from Adrian about these hooks. There are many pluses to these hooks but his one negative comment was his hook-up to landing ratio was low when the barb is crushed--a big negative. I know Adrian's a good fisherman so I don't think it is the operator's problem. Have you had a similar problem or do you not crush your barbs?
Here's a little flatwing for the flats. Up-turned hook prevents dull hooks from sand and clam shells.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:01 pm Post subject: Re: Colour variation... |
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| Penguin wrote: | | Same basic scheme... |
How about a recipe for this herring, the second herring? Thanks.
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Esox
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:42 pm Post subject: your pic |
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In that picture of you on the couch; are those dogs?
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Penguin
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:02 pm Post subject: My constant companions... |
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Lucy & Dingo...
(Border Collie & Blue Heeler mix)
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Esox
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| Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:45 pm Post subject: Hook strength |
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Beautiful dogs. Dingo looks bright. Those two breeds almost cancel each other out. Such great personalities.
The hooks that you are using look too weak. How strong are they? I have had some pullouts over the years with Stripers and Blues because I used freshwater streamer hooks. Are yours deceptively strong, like Ike Turner? Between the thinness of the hook and the width of the gap they look like they could straighten.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 3:45 am Post subject: Re: Keel Hook Herring |
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| Penguin wrote: | | I've taken Owner and Gamagatsu worm hooks and turned them into a keel/hook-up HerringPhly... |
Nicely done and an excellent idea. For the record, Mustad has discontinued the 79666 keel hook - I've confirmded this with the North American Mustad rep. I've been looking at various worm hooks to do something very similar to what you've created (I'm playing with imitations of immature carp for largish bass of the striped hybrid variety that live in the Ohio River - and if I'm very lucky and outsized Flathead catfish, which is a nearly impossible fish on a fly for many reasons you might not anticipate). Thanks for sharing a great combination of tying techniques - flatwings, keel flies and bendbacks!
Joe C.
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Variation on a Rayz Fly theme...
Owner wide gap worm hook...
Sparse...Less is more...
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