Bert Quimby
Another entry in the continuing series of features highlighting the flies of the founders of the art of streamer tying. Bert Quimby is not as well known as many, but his flies are just as beautiful and original.
- Chief Needahbeh Variation
- Dr. Milne Streamer
- Dusty Streamer #2
- Dusty Streamer (late version)
- Dusty Streamer (original)
- Galloping Ghost
- Governor Brann
- Green Ghost
- Lady Ghost (original)
- Lady Ghost (later version)
- Ross McKenney
- Trout Rock #1
- Trout Rock #2
- Trout Rock #3
- Trout Rock #4
- Trout Rock #5
- Trout Rock #6
- White Pheasant Streamer
- York's Kennebago
- Pattern references
Although their popularity may have waned since their heyday in the 1940's and 50's, the Green Ghost, Lady Ghost and York's Kennebago are flies that are firmly cemented in streamer fly history. While his streamers are often wallet-mates of quintessential patterns by famed creators such as Carrie Stevens and Herb Welch, the aforementioned patterns' originator, Bert Quimby, does not share the same legendary status
as those two streamer luminaries. As is commonly the case with fly pattern history, the longevity and wide acceptance of a pattern or patterns does not ensure that its creator will be as easily remembered as his creations - especially as time advances. Such seems to be the case with Mr. Quimby. Yet, looking back, it is plainly obvious that Bert Quimby had his finger on the pulse of northeastern streamer development and influenced it to a degree that few today may realize.
Bert Quimby worked as a guide, camp manager and newspaper reporter, a vocation shared by some fellow streamer notables such as Gene Letourneau. It was while working as a reporter that Quimby first met Ai Wellington Ballou - generally acknowledged as the father of the marabou streamer. Why exactly Bert was at the mouth of the Songo River on Sebago Lake is unclear, but this meeting may have had a profound impact on not only Quimby's life, but also Maine streamer history in general. For Ballou not only went on to coach Bert Quimby on the finer points of fishing, but more importantly, also gave him his indoctrination into the craft of fly tying. A rather fortunate set of circumstances for other Maine anglers to come, both prominent and otherwise, as well as for us today.
From South Windham, Maine, where he resided, Bert Quimby would not only generate his own streamer designs, but would also have a hand in many other soon-to-be-well-known patterns. As for his own flies, he is perhaps best known for the Green Ghost and Lady Ghost. The Green Ghost is thought to have evolved from a melding of Carrie Stevens' Gray Ghost and the interest in green-winged streamers of the day, attributed to the popularity of the Dr. Sanborn's Nine-Three. Both the Green and Lady Ghosts were chiefly known and used as trolling flies during that time. It has been said that in Maine during the 1940's and 1950's, the Lady Ghost was considered by many to be an indispensable pattern.
An original Silver Ghost by Bert Quimby
Quimby also cast forth some other intriguing streamer 'apparitions' - his Galloping Ghost, which sports a wing of Bali duck, and a Silver Ghost (shown in the accompanying photo), which is attributed to Quimby by Harold Smedley in his book "Fly Patterns and Their Origins." (Smedley, however, also makes mention of a Red Ghost and Kennebago Special by Mr. Quimby, but this is likely erroneous as those patterns are generally accepted to be originated by Ray Salminen and Bill Edson, respectively.) There were, of course, his less 'ghostly' streamers as well. The York's Kennebago, perhaps Quimby's third most recognized pattern, was named for T. Lewis York of York's Camps. This handsome, badger-winged streamer was developed to imitate a baitfish of Kennebago Lake - perhaps dace or possibly a Lake Chub, which possesses similar dace-like characteristics. Bert himself particularly favored the Lady Ghost and York's Kennebago over his other patterns. Most of his flies were tied on looped-eye Allcock 2811 hooks, a common favorite among streamer tyers of that time.
Additionally, Quimby created his Dusty Streamer (first tested on Moosehead Lake), the Governor Brann (for which he tied and presented the pattern to the former Maine Governor at the Sportsmen's Show in Boston), tied the first Nimrod Bucktail for its pattern originator Henry Beverage (then fishing editor of the Portland Press Herald) and perhaps originated the Ross McKenney (named for the popular Maine guide). Quimby is also credited with assisting Chief Needahbeh in the development of his namesake bi-plane streamer. Bert was the Chief's main source for this pattern, though Needahbeh stated that Quimby eventually tied and preferred his own Chief Needabeh variation, using only yellow hackles as opposed to the original combination of red and yellow.
Given the extent of Mr. Quimby's involvement and contributions discussed above, we might now view his patterns with renewed interest. Members of the Streamers@ email discussion group have recreated these streamers here, serving as either an introduction or a call to revisit, in the hopes that you might be stirred to tie and fish them. A reference list for Bert Quimby's patterns is also given below.
Chris Del Plato
5/2003
Chief Needahbeh Variation
Tyer: | Scott Daskiewich |
Head: | Black |
Tag: | Three or four turns of narrow flat silver tinsel |
Body: | Red silk floss |
Rib: | Narrow flat silver tinsel |
Wing: | Yellow saddle hackles, rather long |
Cheek: | Jungle cock, rather long |
Collar: | Red saddle hackle |
Dr. Milne Streamer
Tyer: | Dave Talley |
Head: | Black |
Tag: | Four or five turns of flat gold tinsel |
Tail: | Golden pheasant crest curving upwards |
Body: | Yellow Chenille |
Wing: | Sparse black bear hair ending at the tail, over which are four gray neck hackles extending well beyond the tail. |
Topping: | Thin section of red dyed goose feather as long as the cheek. |
Shoulder: | Bronze mallard flank feather, about half the wing length |
Cheek: | Jungle cock, medium length |
Dusty Streamer #2
Tyer: | Ron McKusick |
Wing: | Grizzly hackle |
Cheeks: | Jungle Cock |
Body: | Silver Tinsel |
Belly: | Peacock herl, longer under body |
Throat: | Brown over white |
Tail: | Peacock Herl |
Dusty Streamer (late version)
Tyer: | Dean Endress |
Tag: | Four or fine turns narrow flat silver tinsel |
Body: | Black silk, dressed very thin |
Rib: | Narrow flat silver tinsel |
Belly: | Six peacock herls, under which is a small bunch of white bucktail, both as long as the wing |
Wing: | Four well-defined barred plymouth rock hackles (grizzly) |
Cheek: | Jungle cock |
Dusty Streamer (original)
Tyer: | Bob Petti |
Head: | Black |
Tag: | Four or five turns narrow flat silver tinsel |
Body: | Red silk, dressed very thin |
Rib: | Narrow flat silver tinsel |
Belly: | Six strands peacock herl, under which is a small bunch of white bucktail, both as long as the wing. |
Throat: | Short golden pheasant crest curving upward |
Wing: | Four well-defined barred plymouth rock hackles |
Cheek: | Jungle cock |
Galloping Ghost
Tyer: | Chris Del Plato |
Head: | Black |
Tag: | A few turns of medium embossed silver tinsel |
Tail: | Section of red dyed duck quill |
Body: | Orange floss |
Rib: | Medium embossed silver tinsel |
Throat: | Red-orange hackle fibers |
Wing: | Two Bali duck shoulder feathers, light edge on top, extending beyond the tail |
Cheek: | Jungle Cock |
Note: | The few established streamer patterns (Bali Streamer, Jess Wood, Galloping Ghost) that use Bali feathers as a wing, seem to have perhaps used them stripped on one side to give the wing a light top and dark bottom half and a low profile (though Bergman hints in 'Trout' that the Bali Streamer may have been a flatwing design). The variation shown here uses the whole feather, tied in typical upright streamer wing |
Governor Brann
Tyer: | Deryn Lacombe |
Head: | Black |
Tail: | Narrow section of red dyed duck wing, rather long |
Body: | Medium flat silver tinsel |
Rib: | Narrow oval silver tinsel |
Throat: | A very small bunch of dark brown bucktail, nearly as long as the wing |
Wing: | For olive green saddle hackles, flanked on each side by furnace saddle hackle |
Cheek: | Jungle cock |
Notes: | Bates comments that Mr. Quimby had deleted the throat in later versions. |
Green Ghost
Tyer: | Emmett Johnson |
Head: | Black |
Tag: | Three or four turns of narrow flat silver tinsel |
Body: | Orange silk dressed thin |
Rib: | Narrow flat silver tinsel |
Belly: | Five or six strands of peacock herl, under which is a small bunch of white bucktail, both extending past the hook barb |
Wing: | Four medium green saddle hackles |
Topping: | Golden pheasant crest (optional) |
Shoulder: | Silver pheasant body feather, 1/3 length of wing |
Cheek: | Jungle cock |
Lady Ghost (original)
Tyer: | Wes Autio |
Hook: | Mustad 94720, #6 |
Tail: | Golden Pheasant Tippet |
Body: | Red Silk |
Rib: | Flat Silver Tinsel |
Belly: | Six Peacock Herls, below which is white bucktail |
Wing: | Four Golden Badger hackles |
Shoulder: | Reeve's Pheasant body feather |
Cheek: | Jungle Cock extended to the edge of the brown band on the shoulder. |
Head: | Black |
Notes: | Bates states that the Reeve's pheasant shoulder in the original pattern had a white base. |
Lady Ghost (later version)
Tyer: | Wes Autio |
Hook: | Mustad 94720, #4 |
Body: | Flat silver tinsel |
Rib: | Oval silver tinsel |
Belly: | Six Peacock Herls, below which is white bucktail |
Throat: | Golden pheasant crest curled upward |
Underwing: | Golden pheasant crest curled upward |
Wing: | Four golden badger hackles |
Shoulder: | Reeve's pheasant body feather |
Cheek: | Jungle cock extended to the edge of the brown band on the shoulder |
Head: | Black |
Notes: | It appears from photographs that Quimby used a much shorter hook, probably no more than a 3x, such that the hook was less than one half the length of the wing. |
Ross McKenney
Tyer: | Lindsey Grandison |
Head: | Black |
Tail: | Narrow sections of married red and white duck wing feather, above which is a short golden pheasant crest feather, all curving upward |
Body: | Medium flat silver tinsel, built up toward the head |
Rib: | Fine oval silver tinsel |
Throat: | Small bunch of white hackle fibers, medium length |
Wing: | Four dyed duck bread feathers, 1/3 as long as the wing and dress and dressed on wing. |
Horns: | Single fiber from the Blue Macaw tail, 2/3 as long as wing |
Cheek: | Jungle Cock |
Notes: | Bates suggested that the Ross McKenney, the Dana, and the Bonbright were all the same pattern. Leonard and Smedley seem to show the Ross McKenney as similar, but not quite the same, not mentioning some details such as the horns. |
Trout Rock #1
Tyer: | Bob Petti |
Wing: | Black over white bucktail |
Body: | Black floss |
Rib: | Silver tinsel |
Tail: | Red hackle fibers |
Shoulder: | Jungle cock |
Trout Rock #2
Tyer: | Monte Smith |
Wing: | Black over red over yellow bucktail |
Body: | Black floss |
Rib: | Silver tinsel |
Shoulder: | Jungle cock |
Trout Rock #3
Tyer: | Bruce Whittle |
Wing: | Brown bucktail |
Body: | Brown wool |
Tip/Tag: | Silver |
Shoulder: | Jungle cock |
Trout Rock #4
Tyer: | Lindsey Grandison |
Wing: | Red over white bucktail |
Body: | Silver tinsel |
Rib: | Silver wire |
Shoulder: | Jungle cock |
Trout Rock #5
Tyer: | John Bayerl |
Wing: | Black hair |
Body: | Brown wool |
Tip/Tag: | Silver |
Shoulder: | Jungle cock |
Trout Rock #6
Tyer: | Alan Petrucci |
Wing: | Squirrel |
Body: | Red floss |
Rib: | Silver |
Shoulder: | Jungle cock |
White Pheasant Streamer
Tyer: | Clyde Watson |
Head: | Black |
Tag: | Flat silver tinsel |
Tail: | Golden Pheasant crest and Peacock sword |
Butt: | Red chenille |
Body: | Flat silver tinsel |
Rib: | Silver tinsel lace |
Throat: | Red hackle fibers, under which are orange hackle fibers |
Wing: | Four white neck hackles |
Topping: | Strands of peacock sword, about half as long as wing |
Shoulder: | Golden Pheasant tippet |
York's Kennebago
Tyer: | Chris Leonard |
Head: | Black |
Tag: | Three or four turns of narrow flat silver tinsel |
Tail: | Short Golden Pheasant crest feather curing upward |
Butt: | Scarlet floss, three or four turns located about 2/3 the way back from the eye |
Body: | Flat silver tinsel |
Rib: | Oval silver tinsel |
Throat: | Small bunch of red hackle fibers, about 1/3 the length of the wing |
Wing: | Four honey badger saddles hackles, extending quite long past the hook bend |
Topping: | Small bunch of red hackle fibers, as long as throat |
Cheek: | Jungle Cock |
Pattern references
Green Ghost - B, H, L, S, S&L, S&S, W
Lady Ghost -- B, L, S&L, S&S
Dr. Milne Streamer -- B, S&L, S&S
Dusty Streamer (original) - B, S&S
Dusty Streamer #2 - L, S&S
Dusty Streamer (late) - B, S&L, S&S
Governor Brann Streamer -- B, S&S
Trout Rock Fly (6 variations) - L, S&S
White Pheasant Streamer - B, S&S
York's Kennebago - B, L, S&L, S&S, W
Galloping Ghost Streamer - B, L, S, S&L
Ross McKenney - B, L, S, S&S
Chief Needahbeh variation - B, L
Reference Key:
B - Bates (Streamer Fly Tying & Fishing 1995)
H - Hilyard (Carrie Stevens)
L - Leonard (Flies)
S - Smedley (Fly Patterns & Their Origins)
S&L - Stewart & Leeman (Trolling Flies For Trout & Salmon)
S&S - Schmookler & Sils (Forgotten Flies)
W - Wilson (Smelt Fly Patterns)
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Comments
hello, My name is Ev
hello, My name is Evan Quimby. Bert was my great grandfather. I have MANY of his original flies as well as several pictures. several with the chief. if you ever wanted to discuss, feel free to contact me, id be happy to send you somne pictures.
hello bob, can you
hello bob,
can you please send a photo of the trout rock to me?
bill davis i have so
bill davis i have some of berts streamers.contact me if you are still interested.
I have a "Joe King,"
I have a "Joe King," a "Trout Rock #1," and one other.
Can you tell me what the value might be.
This is part of a collection from about the 1940"s
Any suggestions would be appreciated
William W. Anderson
In the 1950's our pa
In the 1950's our parents would on occasion would visit with Bert and Jackie Quimby. I believe Jackie to be my father's cousin. At any rate, my recollection was that Jackie and perhaps Bert also tied flies for LL Bean in that time period. At this time my father (Edward Davis) was an avid fly fisherman and received many streamer flies from the quimby's as well as from LL Bean himself as we lived nearby and father plowed his driveway in the winter.
To the crutx of the matter, I have my father's fly roll and I have tied a duplicate of every fly therin. However, I would love to aquire one or two of the original flies tied by Jackie or Bert in the original paper and cellophane wrappers. If anyone can help please e-mail me.
Bill
My wife's Uncle Bob
My wife's Uncle Bob Ballou (Ai Ballou's oldest son) recently sent her copy of the Article "The Steamers Flies of Bert Quimby" dated 10/30/07. The author of the article wondered out loud, why Quimby was at the mouth of the Songo River on Sebago Lake, when he first met my wife's grandfather Ai Wellington Ballou. I met Ai Ballou very few times, too my regret. Truely, a wonderful man and sportsman. Quimby met Ai Ballou at the mouth of the Songo River because that was where the Salmon were. My vivid memory recalls the stories he would tell of his fishing feats as well as the stories behind each "trophy catch". My summer home is on Crescent Lake, in Raymond and he therefore told of the many times he would trek to the "Migis Lodge" fish with his friends at the mouth of the Songo.
His fly tying laboratory (small upstairs corner room)was a marvel with all the bird feathers he gathered from around the world. My best recollection was the story of the patch of grey dog fur that he had stored away in a bottom drawer and the story of how he got the dog's owner, a 9 year old girl, who he extolled to cut off a swatch of this dog's fur. This dog fur became the heart of his famous and very successful fly he named after the dog. "Growling Bill" was to go down in Ai's book as a favorite of his flies. Have any of your readers any knowledge of "Growling Bill" fly?
looking for picture
looking for picture and value of green ghost and black ghost from the upper dam region of maine
Relationship to Bert Quimby
Just to correct the record. I recently discovered pictures of Bert Quimby in uniform from World War One and his letter to my Grandmother, Grace Miller Davis. They were cousins living in Whitefield New Hampshire in 1917. My twin brother, Bill Davis commented on 2018 that he believed we were related to Bert’s wife Jackie but the actual relationship is to Bert. I am looking for any information on Bert.
He was my great grandfather.
He was my great grandfather. Call me or text me 860 882 9705 any time