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The Global FlyFisher forum has existed for almost as long as the site, and the oldest posts are more than 20 years old. Forums aren't what they used to be. Social media has taken over a lot of their roles, and the GFF form is very quiet ... to put it mildly.
We keep everything online for the sake of history, and preserve the posts for as long as possible, but as you will see, quite a few of them aren't in a good shape, but rely on old images hosted elsewhere, which are no longer available, odd codes from old systems and much more, which can't be shown in a decent way.
But the posts are here, and you can - if you insist - start new threads. But don't stay awake waiting for replies, because they are unfortunately few and far apart.
Martin

Fly fishing - Fish Better

I thought that I would start a new thread here as I did not want to hijack the "long life to GFF" thread and turn it into "Where should Rodney fish?" thread. :) Anyways, I'm hopping on Lufthansa in two days from now and should be in Valby by Friday afternoon.

I just packed the rods, and the decision was tough. I laid my 4wt, 6wt and 8wt out, and tried to decide which ones to bring, or bring them all. At the end I chose the 6 and 8wt as I am most likely not doing too much grayling or brown trout fishing in streams due to time limitation. I am limited to two fly rods as I am also bringing some spinning rods for my girlfriend Nina.

Ripley and Michael, thank you for your kind [url=http://www.globalflyfisher.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9&start=15]suggest… and offers[/url], I really appreciate the feedbacks. My plan is uncertain, right now I have two definite trips planned out. We're spending four nights on Bornholm during the last week of May, and we'll do a road trip to Jutland in the second week of June. During our Jutland road trip, we'll be visiting and fishing with a friend as well as hopefully meeting up with Martin as it turns out we have a mutual friend. :)

During the rest of my stay, I will fish at various lakes around Zealand, hopefully explore some beaches for garfish and sea trout, as well as making some trips to Tryggevælde Å.

So I was looking at the [url=http://www.globalflyfisher.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=44]"An Explosive Evening" thread[/url] and listening to Martin's latest podcast, that's rather exciting! It sounds like the sea trout fishing lately on the beach has been excellent? So which area around Zealand should I take a look if I want to do a bit of beach fishing for garfish and sea trout? My flyfishing skill is fairly elementary by the way, because most of my fishing done in British Columbia has been lure and float fishing. The casting distance is still being worked on, hopefully that isn't too much of a disadvantage on the beach. :?

Cheers all, expect updates. :)

Rodney,

Gz with the pike - always a fun fish to catch.
Enjoy your stay in Denmark.

/Peter :)

[quote:85f3e33971="Rodney"]Arrived yesterday afternoon, did a short fishing trip this morning to Tryggevælde Å. I managed to connect with a pike and a perch. :D [/quote:85f3e33971]

Good job Rod!

Tryggevælde is known for some excellent fishing for many different species. You can probably expect to see bream, ide and sea trout plus many other species as well as pike and trophy size perch.

Let's hear what your trip brings.

Martin

Thanks everyone. :) Yesterday we spent a morning down around Køge as Martin had recommended but I found the Danish coastal wind to be very unforgiving. :? Most of my flycasting has always been done in streams and lakes, so I really had no clue what to do on a beach. :shock: Instead we turned to our spinning rods and fished with small spoons that I have made up. After several casts I brought in a rimte/ide, my first ever. I was somewhat surprised as I did not think they would strike like a predatory species. Anyways, interesting looking fish with some pretty red fins. No garfish sighted yesterday, but the locals have all talked about how good the fishing has been. :shock: Better luck next time I guess. A pretty spot down that way by the way! The drive through the narrow roads was adventurous by the way, it was like a maze while we were trying to figure out where the coast was.

[img:885c70d64e]http://www.fishingwithrod.com/albums/2006denmark/060514_1.jpg[/img:885c…]

I've been told about ide fishing in the Tryggevælde in the past. While we were there two days ago, I noticed the water was somewhat brown. Have people been successful with ide on the fly? I've tied up these brown/olive/black wooly buggers in size 4 to 8, I wonder if they would entice some ide and perch if slowly stripped near the bottom, or are they not even going to see it...

Exciting times ahead. :)

[quote:dea44963c9="Rodney"]but I found the Danish coastal wind to be very unforgiving[/quote:dea44963c9]

Yup! That's coastal fishing for you... the wind is an ever important factor. It only takes about 10-20 years to learn all the tricks: casting backwards, going to the right places in any wind direction, finding spots with wind but no dirt etc.

[quote:dea44963c9="Rodney"]...with small spoons that I have made up. After several casts I brought in a rimte/ide, my first ever. I was somewhat surprised as I did not think they would strike like a predatory species.

I've been told about ide fishing in the Tryggevælde in the past. While we were there two days ago, I noticed the water was somewhat brown. Have people been successful with ide on the fly? I've tied up these brown/olive/black wooly buggers in size 4 to 8, I wonder if they would entice some ide and perch if slowly stripped near the bottom, or are they not even going to see it...[/quote:dea44963c9]

I have fished ide on the coast (right by Tryggevælde outside the protected zone) and other places. They seem quite content with almost anything, but prefer stuff on the bottom it seems. I'd go for some [url=http://globalflyfisher.com/reports/flyfair2000/pic.php?id=1858&caller=a… nymphs[/url] or just bright, shiny, heavy nymphs or buggers on a sinking line.

Personally I would much rather sight fish for them in the clear ocean water, but your mileage may vary...

[img:dea44963c9]http://10stille.dk/pictures/10stille/20050806/medium_img_6673.jpg[/img:…]

Martin

[quote:55013fcd2c="Rodney"] I found the Danish coastal wind to be very unforgiving. [/quote:55013fcd2c]
So did I. But surprisingly, even though I am not an experienced flyfisher, I have achieved easier and longer casts under the windy conditions. It was even difficult to cast with spinning gear the other day, but the flyline turned out to be the right choice. I reckon the right wind can enhance your flyfishing experience.

Ide in the salt water? or I just misunderstood something?
If we are talking the same fish, this is a very common fish in the streams and lakes in Slovakia, and a very frequent catch even for the beginners. It is a real predator as for its behaviour, though very timid. It can be caught on anything basically, small streamers as well as dry flies and nymphs (to say nothing about wobblers if spinning)

[quote:41a5683f89="vanuz"]Ide in the salt water? or I just misunderstood something?[/quote:41a5683f89]

The ide (Leuciscus idus) do go into the salt, even though the salt isn't that salty alt all. We're talking the brackish water of the Baltic here, but anyway...

But the fish can also be caught in the streams and lakes.

Martin

[quote:8f6c4afd4c="vanuz"][It was even difficult to cast with spinning gear the other day, but the flyline turned out to be the right choice. I reckon the right wind can enhance your flyfishing experience.[/quote:8f6c4afd4c]

I told you so... ;-)

I actually detest calm conditions on the coast. Casting with a good wind is much better and catching is soooo much better when there's some wave action and you'd be amazed how much wind can be overcome and produce fish.

[url=http://10stille.dk/video.php?id=22&guest=b2bfc0abb9]This little Windows video[/url] from one of our Bornholm trips proves my point. Kasper dragged four big sea trout of this inferno.

[url=http://10stille.dk/video.php?id=22&guest=b2bfc0abb9][img:8f6c4afd4c]htt…]

WInd is a good thing on the coast as long as it is on your side.

Martin

Though windy during the day, the weather picked up and ended like this. I could not resist to share this photo with you (it looks much better when enlarged). My colleague was holding a spinning rod, sorry for this faux pas, I was the one flyfishing.
P.S. I do not know if I am just unlucky, however, since the garfish appeared, I have not hooked any seatrouts ever since. Is anyone else also hopeless this way? :shock:

Martin, last Sunday did not seem so windy after I watched that video. :roll:

Thanks for the information on ide. I am always very interested in finding new species and techniques, I will definitely want to try it out.

The protective zone just outside Tryggevælde, how big is it and is it marked? I can't remember the distance from the river mouth where you are not allowed to fish...

[quote:9424e097fe="Rodney"]The protective zone just outside Tryggevælde, how big is it and is it marked? I can't remember the distance from the river mouth where you are not allowed to fish...[/quote:9424e097fe]

Large rivers are protected all year in a 500 meters half circle outside the estuary, meaning that you have to go half a kilometer along the beach before you can fish legally. Most zones are NOT marked.

Smaller streams have the same protection, but only in the winter during the spawning run. I think the dates are November 15th to January 15th.

Martin

Hi,

I, like Martin, hate calm mirror like water in the salt. I prefer and tend more and more towards windy / fresh days.
Looking back, I have caught more larger - basically - more fish on windy / slight coloured water days. I guess the sea trout prefer more noise, water movement and of course more food in the water.

It's not an over night success casting in the wind. You just have to adapt and forget what you have seen at casting demonstrations in sports halls (no wind there) and try to find a way to get that fly out.

Don't be saddened by onshore winds. You'll be surprised just how many fish lurk close to shore in the hubbub of weed, dirt and food!

Enuff said...
Ripley

Martin,
That's almost pornographic for me! :?

It's a pity it isn't "scratch and sniff" the salty air must be blind'in!

Hardcore...
Ripley

Ripley,

That was just on the rough side, even for a wind lover. I think we had a wind from the back at up towards 20 meters per second in the peaks and probably some 15-17 meters per second in average. Not that the fish cared, but it was actually difficult to stand still because of wind and waves.

I prefer something a little less dramatic. Like [url=http://10stille.dk/video.php?id=63&guest=3a6a8cc93f]this little clip from a recent trip[/url] where the wind was rough, but conditions were close to perfect anyway. It may seem quite calm, but the sound tells another story. It was pretty windy.

This was the fish as photographed by Kasper (seen on the video):

[img:11d79518d1]http://10stille.dk/pictures/10stille/20060507/medium_img_4843.jpg[/img:…]

Martin

Hey Martin,

Obviously, you have seen the latest pictures of the the Sea Tornado's.
WOW... :shock:
Imagine...Do you think there's enough wind there?

Hardcore picture.
:wink:
Would love to get a copy of it and made into a framed picture...

Owner?...Contact me. Please......

RD

Thanks for more useful information folks, some really good read indeed.

Tomorrow we plan to take a trip to Amager Strandpark and fish on the beach. Is there anything that I should be aware of, ie. restrictions, etc.

Sunday we plan to head down to Køge and give it another go. :)

Our morning outing at Amager Strandpark started out slow but ended somewhat satisfying. :)

We were able to connect with a few garfish on these orange wooly buggers that I had tied up before I left Canada.

[img:0d23cdf565]http://www.fishingwithrod.com/albums/2006denmark/060519_2.jpg[/img:0d23…]

[img:0d23cdf565]http://www.fishingwithrod.com/albums/2006denmark/060519_3.jpg[/img:0d23…]

[img:0d23cdf565]http://www.fishingwithrod.com/albums/2006denmark/060519_5.jpg[/img:0d23…]

[img:0d23cdf565]http://www.fishingwithrod.com/albums/2006denmark/060519_6.jpg[/img:0d23…]

We didn't see "millions" like what you have witnessed :lol: but I did see a school swimming by towards the end of our outing.

I think we're going back out again tonight. :)

[quote:c72c830b35="Rodney"]We didn't see "millions" like what you have witnessed :lol: but I did see a school swimming by towards the end of our outing.

I think we're going back out again tonight. :)[/quote:c72c830b35]

Millions might be something that has escaped my mouth, but I never saw millions either - particularly not this late in May. The great run is over and it's sea trout time again. The weather the coming days call out for some sea trout fishing.

The garfish run is usually short, about a month or less.

And congrats with the fish BTW!

Martin

Thanks Martin. :) We went out again this evening but this weather is driving me nuts. One minute it was sunny, next minute rain was coming down sideways.

Anyways, we did not connect with any fish tonight but I did have a few taps and saw one followed to shore. One gentleman landed two in a row while we were there on a spoon.

I realize the peak garfish run is now over, but one can still expect to catch some until June right? I still need to get lots of video footages as originally planned. :cry:

Next Wednesday to Saturday Nina and I are off to Bornholm. :) Any recommendations? We are staying at the northern tip of the island.

Have a good weekend all. Sunday we'll be fishing around Køge, I'll post an update if I find any fish. :)

Rodney,

Sent you a private mail with further information, but for the benefit of the forum crowd:

Unfortunately you are also a bit on the late side there. Bornholm is very much a winter and spring place, but anyhow.

Contact my good friend Carsten, who is a part time guide on the island. He has a home page here with his co-guide Otto: [url]http://angelguide.dk/[/url]
He knows what's happening on the island right now. And if not, he knows someone who does. Since we have had a slow spring you might be in luck.

There is also the local fly club [url]http://www.fluefiskerne.dk/[/url] (in Danish). Carsten is a memeber and there are many other very nice people to be met through there.

The pike fishing is opening right now, and Martin - the bike smith - will know where to go. He has a combined bike, sewing maching and fishing shop (sic!) in Rønne. You should definitely pay him a visit. Also the shop Sport Dres is worth a visit. Both are on the outskirts of Rønne towards north quite close to each other.

And of course the [url=http://globalflyfisher.com/reports/bornholm_2006/]article from our annual Bornholm trip[/url] has just come online.

Martin

Rodney,

Gz with the pike - always a fun fish to catch.
Enjoy your stay in Denmark.

/Peter :)

[quote:85f3e33971="Rodney"]Arrived yesterday afternoon, did a short fishing trip this morning to Tryggevælde Å. I managed to connect with a pike and a perch. :D [/quote:85f3e33971]

Good job Rod!

Tryggevælde is known for some excellent fishing for many different species. You can probably expect to see bream, ide and sea trout plus many other species as well as pike and trophy size perch.

Let's hear what your trip brings.

Martin

Thanks everyone. :) Yesterday we spent a morning down around Køge as Martin had recommended but I found the Danish coastal wind to be very unforgiving. :? Most of my flycasting has always been done in streams and lakes, so I really had no clue what to do on a beach. :shock: Instead we turned to our spinning rods and fished with small spoons that I have made up. After several casts I brought in a rimte/ide, my first ever. I was somewhat surprised as I did not think they would strike like a predatory species. Anyways, interesting looking fish with some pretty red fins. No garfish sighted yesterday, but the locals have all talked about how good the fishing has been. :shock: Better luck next time I guess. A pretty spot down that way by the way! The drive through the narrow roads was adventurous by the way, it was like a maze while we were trying to figure out where the coast was.

[img:885c70d64e]http://www.fishingwithrod.com/albums/2006denmark/060514_1.jpg[/img:885c…]

I've been told about ide fishing in the Tryggevælde in the past. While we were there two days ago, I noticed the water was somewhat brown. Have people been successful with ide on the fly? I've tied up these brown/olive/black wooly buggers in size 4 to 8, I wonder if they would entice some ide and perch if slowly stripped near the bottom, or are they not even going to see it...

Exciting times ahead. :)

[quote:dea44963c9="Rodney"]but I found the Danish coastal wind to be very unforgiving[/quote:dea44963c9]

Yup! That's coastal fishing for you... the wind is an ever important factor. It only takes about 10-20 years to learn all the tricks: casting backwards, going to the right places in any wind direction, finding spots with wind but no dirt etc.

[quote:dea44963c9="Rodney"]...with small spoons that I have made up. After several casts I brought in a rimte/ide, my first ever. I was somewhat surprised as I did not think they would strike like a predatory species.

I've been told about ide fishing in the Tryggevælde in the past. While we were there two days ago, I noticed the water was somewhat brown. Have people been successful with ide on the fly? I've tied up these brown/olive/black wooly buggers in size 4 to 8, I wonder if they would entice some ide and perch if slowly stripped near the bottom, or are they not even going to see it...[/quote:dea44963c9]

I have fished ide on the coast (right by Tryggevælde outside the protected zone) and other places. They seem quite content with almost anything, but prefer stuff on the bottom it seems. I'd go for some [url=http://globalflyfisher.com/reports/flyfair2000/pic.php?id=1858&caller=a… nymphs[/url] or just bright, shiny, heavy nymphs or buggers on a sinking line.

Personally I would much rather sight fish for them in the clear ocean water, but your mileage may vary...

[img:dea44963c9]http://10stille.dk/pictures/10stille/20050806/medium_img_6673.jpg[/img:…]

Martin

[quote:55013fcd2c="Rodney"] I found the Danish coastal wind to be very unforgiving. [/quote:55013fcd2c]
So did I. But surprisingly, even though I am not an experienced flyfisher, I have achieved easier and longer casts under the windy conditions. It was even difficult to cast with spinning gear the other day, but the flyline turned out to be the right choice. I reckon the right wind can enhance your flyfishing experience.

Ide in the salt water? or I just misunderstood something?
If we are talking the same fish, this is a very common fish in the streams and lakes in Slovakia, and a very frequent catch even for the beginners. It is a real predator as for its behaviour, though very timid. It can be caught on anything basically, small streamers as well as dry flies and nymphs (to say nothing about wobblers if spinning)

[quote:41a5683f89="vanuz"]Ide in the salt water? or I just misunderstood something?[/quote:41a5683f89]

The ide (Leuciscus idus) do go into the salt, even though the salt isn't that salty alt all. We're talking the brackish water of the Baltic here, but anyway...

But the fish can also be caught in the streams and lakes.

Martin

[quote:8f6c4afd4c="vanuz"][It was even difficult to cast with spinning gear the other day, but the flyline turned out to be the right choice. I reckon the right wind can enhance your flyfishing experience.[/quote:8f6c4afd4c]

I told you so... ;-)

I actually detest calm conditions on the coast. Casting with a good wind is much better and catching is soooo much better when there's some wave action and you'd be amazed how much wind can be overcome and produce fish.

[url=http://10stille.dk/video.php?id=22&guest=b2bfc0abb9]This little Windows video[/url] from one of our Bornholm trips proves my point. Kasper dragged four big sea trout of this inferno.

[url=http://10stille.dk/video.php?id=22&guest=b2bfc0abb9][img:8f6c4afd4c]htt…]

WInd is a good thing on the coast as long as it is on your side.

Martin

Though windy during the day, the weather picked up and ended like this. I could not resist to share this photo with you (it looks much better when enlarged). My colleague was holding a spinning rod, sorry for this faux pas, I was the one flyfishing.
P.S. I do not know if I am just unlucky, however, since the garfish appeared, I have not hooked any seatrouts ever since. Is anyone else also hopeless this way? :shock:

Martin, last Sunday did not seem so windy after I watched that video. :roll:

Thanks for the information on ide. I am always very interested in finding new species and techniques, I will definitely want to try it out.

The protective zone just outside Tryggevælde, how big is it and is it marked? I can't remember the distance from the river mouth where you are not allowed to fish...

[quote:9424e097fe="Rodney"]The protective zone just outside Tryggevælde, how big is it and is it marked? I can't remember the distance from the river mouth where you are not allowed to fish...[/quote:9424e097fe]

Large rivers are protected all year in a 500 meters half circle outside the estuary, meaning that you have to go half a kilometer along the beach before you can fish legally. Most zones are NOT marked.

Smaller streams have the same protection, but only in the winter during the spawning run. I think the dates are November 15th to January 15th.

Martin

Hi,

I, like Martin, hate calm mirror like water in the salt. I prefer and tend more and more towards windy / fresh days.
Looking back, I have caught more larger - basically - more fish on windy / slight coloured water days. I guess the sea trout prefer more noise, water movement and of course more food in the water.

It's not an over night success casting in the wind. You just have to adapt and forget what you have seen at casting demonstrations in sports halls (no wind there) and try to find a way to get that fly out.

Don't be saddened by onshore winds. You'll be surprised just how many fish lurk close to shore in the hubbub of weed, dirt and food!

Enuff said...
Ripley

Martin,
That's almost pornographic for me! :?

It's a pity it isn't "scratch and sniff" the salty air must be blind'in!

Hardcore...
Ripley

Ripley,

That was just on the rough side, even for a wind lover. I think we had a wind from the back at up towards 20 meters per second in the peaks and probably some 15-17 meters per second in average. Not that the fish cared, but it was actually difficult to stand still because of wind and waves.

I prefer something a little less dramatic. Like [url=http://10stille.dk/video.php?id=63&guest=3a6a8cc93f]this little clip from a recent trip[/url] where the wind was rough, but conditions were close to perfect anyway. It may seem quite calm, but the sound tells another story. It was pretty windy.

This was the fish as photographed by Kasper (seen on the video):

[img:11d79518d1]http://10stille.dk/pictures/10stille/20060507/medium_img_4843.jpg[/img:…]

Martin

Hey Martin,

Obviously, you have seen the latest pictures of the the Sea Tornado's.
WOW... :shock:
Imagine...Do you think there's enough wind there?

Hardcore picture.
:wink:
Would love to get a copy of it and made into a framed picture...

Owner?...Contact me. Please......

RD

Thanks for more useful information folks, some really good read indeed.

Tomorrow we plan to take a trip to Amager Strandpark and fish on the beach. Is there anything that I should be aware of, ie. restrictions, etc.

Sunday we plan to head down to Køge and give it another go. :)

Our morning outing at Amager Strandpark started out slow but ended somewhat satisfying. :)

We were able to connect with a few garfish on these orange wooly buggers that I had tied up before I left Canada.

[img:0d23cdf565]http://www.fishingwithrod.com/albums/2006denmark/060519_2.jpg[/img:0d23…]

[img:0d23cdf565]http://www.fishingwithrod.com/albums/2006denmark/060519_3.jpg[/img:0d23…]

[img:0d23cdf565]http://www.fishingwithrod.com/albums/2006denmark/060519_5.jpg[/img:0d23…]

[img:0d23cdf565]http://www.fishingwithrod.com/albums/2006denmark/060519_6.jpg[/img:0d23…]

We didn't see "millions" like what you have witnessed :lol: but I did see a school swimming by towards the end of our outing.

I think we're going back out again tonight. :)

[quote:c72c830b35="Rodney"]We didn't see "millions" like what you have witnessed :lol: but I did see a school swimming by towards the end of our outing.

I think we're going back out again tonight. :)[/quote:c72c830b35]

Millions might be something that has escaped my mouth, but I never saw millions either - particularly not this late in May. The great run is over and it's sea trout time again. The weather the coming days call out for some sea trout fishing.

The garfish run is usually short, about a month or less.

And congrats with the fish BTW!

Martin

Thanks Martin. :) We went out again this evening but this weather is driving me nuts. One minute it was sunny, next minute rain was coming down sideways.

Anyways, we did not connect with any fish tonight but I did have a few taps and saw one followed to shore. One gentleman landed two in a row while we were there on a spoon.

I realize the peak garfish run is now over, but one can still expect to catch some until June right? I still need to get lots of video footages as originally planned. :cry:

Next Wednesday to Saturday Nina and I are off to Bornholm. :) Any recommendations? We are staying at the northern tip of the island.

Have a good weekend all. Sunday we'll be fishing around Køge, I'll post an update if I find any fish. :)

Rodney,

Sent you a private mail with further information, but for the benefit of the forum crowd:

Unfortunately you are also a bit on the late side there. Bornholm is very much a winter and spring place, but anyhow.

Contact my good friend Carsten, who is a part time guide on the island. He has a home page here with his co-guide Otto: [url]http://angelguide.dk/[/url]
He knows what's happening on the island right now. And if not, he knows someone who does. Since we have had a slow spring you might be in luck.

There is also the local fly club [url]http://www.fluefiskerne.dk/[/url] (in Danish). Carsten is a memeber and there are many other very nice people to be met through there.

The pike fishing is opening right now, and Martin - the bike smith - will know where to go. He has a combined bike, sewing maching and fishing shop (sic!) in Rønne. You should definitely pay him a visit. Also the shop Sport Dres is worth a visit. Both are on the outskirts of Rønne towards north quite close to each other.

And of course the [url=http://globalflyfisher.com/reports/bornholm_2006/]article from our annual Bornholm trip[/url] has just come online.

Martin

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