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Submitted by E J Zorrer on

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kkk ... the three stooges ... old time ..

ernesto and John, I'd like to apologize if I underestimated the fishing experience of you and others, that was not my intention.

nice trouts are very difficult to be caught in the rivers here in southern Brazil, and much more hard in a small stream like this.

Thanks for the comments, and I consider them to avoid misunderstandings in the next videos.

Submitted by Rob C on

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As a long time fly fisherman (With a substantial break for the better part of 15 years), I'm now no longer a teen and am looking closer in to the science, purpose and specifics of various fly lines. Back in the late 80's Atlantic salmon and brook trout, primarily in rivers, were the name of the game where I lived. The only tapers I remember ever using were a standard DT, WF and I think I had something called a rocket taper (Probably similar to a wind taper). These days living in a different part of the country, the game has changed on me and it's all about northern pike, walleye and rainbow trout...bigger/heavier flies, colder climate/water and the biggest adjustment I'm finding, is standing water...and pike have teeth...BIG teeth. LOL This was a concise article with a great deal of a information packed in to it. Thanks.

I ended up buying an Orvis Streamer Stripper Fly Line as a first line for my pike setup, which is still in the mail at the time of this writing, but I can't wait to try it. I'm still in need of a double taper line for this rig, as I will often be fishing from a boat and won't need as much distance, but at $75, or more, lines aren't as cheap as they were 25 years ago. :D

Thanks again...great site, consider yourself bookmarked.

Submitted by 1737246331 on

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Ok Jan, I hope you can visit and learn about Latin America, and also fish in these lands. Show styles, strategies and ways to involve South American fly fishing history and the question would be extended to talk on this site, but if I could pass some material for you to learn more. But there is something to get literature about this, for example Bill Leitch's book on his adventures in Patagonia 70's and there are others.
Well, our conversation was very good, I hope I have contributed something interesting, not only for fly fishing but also for understanding and relations between fishermen from different latitudes
Greetings!
Ernesto

Ernesto,

first, before any misunderstanding, I respect your opinion too! It is only far away from my point of view. And no, I've never been in Latin America. I only know about the history of it, what you know as an more or less educated guy. I loved to read the novels of Gabriel Garcia Marquez and I would like to visit Patagonia and I can really understand anybody who has problems with those fishing lodges. For me they aren't only out of my financial possibilities, I don't like generally making fishing exclusive in any way. But that's not our topic. I'm still curious about he specific Latin American fly fishing techniques. Perhaps you'll find in the future time to write a little bit about that. That would be nice.

All the best

Jan

Submitted by ernesto guevara on

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Jan, I'm sure there are much bigger problems than thinking about fly fishing as an ideological position, but as we are discussing fly fishing on this site understand that what we discuss is fly fishing only.
Please read what I wrote to Martin, I think it's clear what I mean by Eurocentric positions, and as I said I'm only against some explicit conduct of some individuals and corporations, this is what I mean by Eurocentric position or posture yanki demonstrated only by some. Although I express it only through a political position without any kind of phobia, or ethnic or any other kind.
Obviously that salmon and trout that we have in South American are of European origin, it is impossible to deny, but it seems in his assertion that there is a vested right of everyone on these animals now inhabiting South America? I do not understand it that way.
I do not know if you know Latin America, but it is interesting to know not only the fly fishing, but something else that has to do with culture and way of being from Latin American to understand the dynamics that exist in these latitudes. I respect your opinion and I thank the editors for publishing the Global Flyfisher these interesting conversations
Ernesto

Ernesto,

you wrote"This show an ideological and political position translated into a South American fly fishing tradition." and I can understand what you mean, but for me I can't bring an "an ideological and political position" together with my beloved fly fishing. I know about the long freedom fighting history of Latin America - but it's 'only' fly fishing. There are a lot of mystifications to find in the fly fishing world and mostly I am wondering about them and now I learned about a specific Latin American way.....By the way, from where came all the salmons and sea trouts to southern America?
I really don't want to offend you, but after your explanation, your fear of Eurocentric influences in your fly fishing world seems still odd to me. There are surely more important problems, aren't there?

Jan

Submitted by ernesto guevara on

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Jan, the idea of having an ideology in fly fishing and a South American tradition is not so hard to think. It is a political stance in defense of their own national icons of fly fishing, in professing a form of fish, in defense of a policy of open water throughout the Latin American territory and against the appropriation of some lodges and fishing operators who use the territory on behalf of foreign clients.
Here in Latin America have a different style of fishing to the European or the U.S. that has developed over the years, and many of us cherish this style. We fish with single hand rod, fish without dropper, with flies developed by our fly tiers and other details difficult to enumerate. This show an ideological and political position translated into a South American fly fishing tradition. So also say that foreign icons like Anderson, Mel Kriger, Lefty Kreh and others mean nothing to us because they do not know our surroundings and not part of our tradition of fly fishing.
Likewise Scandinavian, French, Americans also have their style, a singular ideology and tradition, just look to get a sense of it.
I hope to have explained this idea
Ernesto

J,

A fly-fishing book from 1997...? I'd be plenty surprised! Your best bet is Amazon with its Kindle format, I think, and they only have used physical copies. I don't think Frank Amato, the publisher, does e-books at all. They are reprinting the physical book, which is due out in July 2012.

Martin

Hi Ernesto,

you wrote "For the fishermen with ideology and knowledge of South American tradition of our surroundings" - please, be so kind and explain this for me.

Cheers

Jan

Flytyer,

I honestly don't think that the difference between saltwater and freshwater lines lie anywhere else than in the taper - the line profile. The materials used are the same as far as I know, and I don't think any line labeled freshwater will suffer any harm by being fished in the salt.

I have never looked at the fresh/salt labels wen buying lines, but always selected the taper I want, which in most cases has been lines meant for freshwater.

There are of course special cases, like the extra stiff lines for tropical saltwater, but they will work equally well in warm freshwater.

So basically I'd choose my line based on taper and performance, and if you rinse it now and then, it will work fine for years.

Martin

Alan, a fabulous job as usual. I just wanted to commend you on the head. All the streamers here are beautiful, but very few of the tyers have bothered to finish the heads nicely. Yours is an example to others of how it should look. Thanks for the great job!

Chris, as always, a beautiful job! Especially the head! Last thing i look at on a fly is the head. Often times it is neglected by the tyer, and ruins what would otherwise be a great fly. Yours are always neat & compact. Sign of an exceptional tyer?

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