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Flytyer,

Coming late to this discussion and maybe too late but still...

Tying saltwater flies requires a sturdy vice with a good grip on large hooks. And if you ask me ANY vice should be rotary along the axis of the hook shank! Some tyers disagree, but that's my personal opinion. Placing eyes, materials on all sides and working with epoxy, resins and hot melt glue is SO much easier with a truly rotating vice.

The White River Fly Shop Classic Vise does seem pretty lousy, and is most likely Indian or Chinese and very poor craftsmanship. Do not go down that path!

Aim higher and save yourself lots of frustrations and buying a new vice in a short time.

The Terra Rotary Vise looks more like it, but seems a bit tiny if you want to tie on larger hooks.

A vise like the DanVise New-Classic Vise (85 USD) is butt-ugly and clumsy looking, but most users seem happy with it.

Personally I would spend even more money now (saving later) and go for something like the Peak rotary (at 150 USD), and going into that league I'd spring the extra money and get a Renzetti Traveler (200 USD). The Renztti is a vise that will give you at least 10-20 years or more of unbroken service even if you tie a lot. And it works!

Apart from that you need good scissors and a good ceramic bobbin holder as the most critical items. All else is cheap and can be bought cheaply and upgraded as you go.

DO NOT get tempted by kits (unless they are from brand names like CFC or Griffin). They are far east junkyard knockoffs and not worth a dime. Buy your tools one at the time or make them yourself.
Needles, velcro, electronic clips, razor blades and such will bring you far.

Hope this helps

Martin

Submitted by raymond 1737246333 on

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beautifull fish ,salmon is almost the only fish i enjoy thanks for sharing.

as I am not in this market (a friend gave me his Bynaking a long time ago) I can't really judge this. The price differences between Europe and the US are to your favour so perhaps you get by at this price.

Submitted by Arne J. Pedersen on

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Hi out there!
I am proud to have known Ray Brooks, back in good old days when the famous Laerdal River was still one of the best and famous rivers in Norway. He was a great salmonfisher and person.

Thanks Martin,

Maybe after I finish this trip, I'll have enough information to [b:08f7acdcbc]finally[/b:08f7acdcbc] submit that piece on attractors !!!

Best,

Planettrout/Tim Barker :oops:

Hi,
by the looks of it and the comments you will find on basspro I don't think so. If you are truely interested in tying saltwater flies in your neck of the woods, you are looking at serious hardware when it comes to hooks, the flies need to be tied tough, both is difficult to impossible when the vice doesn't hold them really tight. I would swing by a fly store, chat with the guys there and then come to a decision whether to start this or not.
A word of warning, tying your own flies is NOT cheaper than buying. It is the other way round. I started my tying career 25 years ago, I enjoy tying flies and spend significant money on hooks and material.
TL
Florian

Martin,

that's a really gorgeous collection and I also like the one-a-day rhythm a lot - can't wait until tomorrow.

All the best

Jan

Thomas,

Yes, being an old magazine guy and liking regular readers, I keep articles spaced out and trickling in. I like people to return and to have something new to look at, but rather than keeping this series with our regular 3-4 days interval, I thought that a week long burst would be nice.

And regarding being modern or young and stupid I certainly don't hope that you imply that I'm old fashioned and aging! ;-)

Jesting aside:you know how it is with fly patterns. We could basically do with three simple patterns, but if we didn't go berserk now and then, how could we ever justify to ourselves and our family that we need most of a room full of materials and tools to tie flies?

We simply have to invent or introduce something new now and then. It's also an important part of the fun and creative game that fly fishing can also be.

Martin

Submitted by Thomas Reher on

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Hi Martin,

Great idea as usual, i'm very much looking forward to the rest.
You seem to be keeping us on edge with your regular trickle of articles, instead of posting them at once, maybe that's why we all keep coming back regularly. :)
I've been a bit more modern (or young and stupid, however you'll like to call it) and have mainly been tying EP sand eels and polarfibre minnows and shrimps.
We'll see how those work out for shad and sea bass once they get back inshore.

best regards,

Thomas

Hi Charlie,
That Footer's Special looks very cool indeed.
I'll have to try it around here. Walleye season opens in a couple weeks...
Jeff

Woot!

That's not flytying, that's mass production! Nice flybox, and definitely something you will appreciate once you're at the water.

Hope you have a great trip.

Matin

Charlie, you and I are in the same boat. I also started tying back in the 60's. My mother-in-law lived in Dennysville Maine. My first fly was the green cosseboom. Fly tying has been very relaxing over then years. I spend about an hour at the desk. I love tying trout flies streamers and nymphs mostly. I am from West Michigan...

Submitted by Ed Null on

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Very nice! A marabou muddler is my go-to for smallmouth, so I will tie up a few of these for low or very clear water. Thanks, Martin. Good series.

Martin,

nice fly and nice description, thanks! I am only missing the two frames as usual, one about the fly and one about the material. I like these frames a lot......or did I oversee them....?

Jan

Thought I'd add a photo of the 4 spoke reel I bought...
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Would like to by one or two spools to match this reel.

As opposed to the earlier 3 spoke model Orvis manufactured...
[img:2e78951ed8]http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q637/MrFurFace/BLAIII3spoke.jpg[/im…]

Let me know if you'd like to sell 'em.
Thanks,

FF

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