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Submitted by William W. Anderson on

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I have a "Joe King," a "Trout Rock #1," and one other.
Can you tell me what the value might be.

This is part of a collection from about the 1940"s

Any suggestions would be appreciated

William W. Anderson

Joseph,

I'm glad you like she story. I hope you get to have as much fun on you Cuba trip as I have had on my trips to Mexico and Belize.

Regarding tarpon leaders... I will not claim to be able to teach you to to tie one... they are different beasts!

I have a few lying around, and I might have tied some of them myself, but looking at them has me puzzled how I ever managed to do that! They consist of several sections held together by all sorts of intricate knots of which a couple of Bimini twists seem to be the simple part! And that basically says it. The idea is that you need very thick and strong mono attached to the fly, then you need a flexible and thin part as your so called class tippet (the breaking strength you are fishing with), which again attach to your leader attached to your fly line.

You want the fish to be unable to chew the lower part close to the fly, but able to break the next part, which is neither your leader nor your fly line.

I have sought on the web for a good instruction in tying one as well as run through my well stocked book shelves for a guide, but have found nada! The Bimini twist is easy to find and fairly easy to tie once you have tried it a couple of times, but tying the whole leader is a different issue.

I urge you to find a person who has done it and have him or her show you. Someone in a local club or shop must have the experience. In the meantime I'll try to dig out some instructions for the whole leader and make a properly illustrated article about the materials, process and proper usage. Hopefully before you leave...

Martin

Submitted by Erick on

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Great pattern and good pics. Thanks! Keep in mind that these types of flies can really be hard on light tippets. They have a tendency to "helicopter" in the wind, twisting the tippet. Thanks again for posting cause I have been struggling to tie this pattern for awhile now!

Submitted by Joseph Facey on

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Hello and thank you for sharing your fantastic trip. I will be leaving at the end of March 2010 with 2 friends to try to accomplish the same thing. We will be arriving Cancun and then flying to Cuba. Mostly chasing Tarpon in the mangroves. I appreciate your comments about Tarpon leaders and letting the hands of experience tie them but I am confused about their composition. eg, how long and what strength is the first section that attaches to the fly line, same for the next section and same for the tippet. I cannot find a pattern or sketch to follow on the net, and no fly shop I have talked to he in British Columbia seems able to help me. You are a great photographer and perhaps you could email me a photo or drawing of these leaders.
Again thanks for sharing,

Regards,

Joe

Submitted by Dennis Kelly on

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Peter is the master of alot of great flies! He actually catches BIG fish on them, which is even cooler!!
Rooster

Submitted by Jo on

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Hi, I love this site and also this fly. I have one question though...why do you use a gold bead instead of a black one? The living larva's head is obviously black.

Thanks for sharing this pattern!

Submitted by capt brian moran on

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Terriffic panoramics, the air to breathe is as though you never took a breath before, the euycaliptus smell is awsome, trout are spectacular... the locals true gents

Submitted by Jan Normandale… on

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Eugene, so sorry for this staledated reply to yours of over 7 months back! I don't come here as often as I used to.

Unfortunately I'm not the expert on antique tackle. I'd suggest checking with Len Codella or Lang's Auctions to see if they have information.

Submitted by Michel on

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Magnificent video ! Totally amazing !

Thank you so much for sharing this :)

Jim,

The elastic does not keep any water out. The boot fills with water!
It's the waders that keep out the water. The legs you see continue into the boot and are waterproof, so no wet toes...

Martin

Dan,

If you read the first paragraph, you will notice mention of both Skip's Dad, Skip Morris and Joe Cornwall. So... we knew! ;-)

Martin

I learned early on that there are only so many ways to hang phur n' pheathers on a shaft and "claiming" anything as "my own" was a terrible idea...
Perhaps the closest I've come to an "original" might be a certain DualTube fly that seems curiously off the beaten path...
The way these Naturals are tied incorporates a smattering of material applications... some of the feathers might be tied down flat and/or tented and/or whatever suits the desired profile...I don't employ the suggested "pillow" technique to rest the flat wings on... and frequently I'll forgo the jungle cock and spot weld on the head material and 3D eyez with the new light cured acrylic [which probably makes true purists cringe...] Should we call this "freestyle" tying?! Whatever...
Anyway... I'm just trying to share some style variations with folks who might appreciate my efforts... the photos, while pleasing to my eye, aren't the best and certainly aren't the worst... perhaps "not bad" might work...
The only thing that I claim these days as my own is a nice steaming turd in the morning, after my starter coffee... both of which are short lived and soon flushed... Cheers!

Thanks again TL,

That leader I put together is for my 5/6 wt. rod on a 5wt forward line. By the way, which is the best knot to attach the butt section to the fly line...a nail knot? Would you suggest the second leader for my 10 ft. 8 wt. rod?

Chet,

The availability of Jungle Cock depends a lot on your location.but a Google search gave me several sources both in the US and the UK. Where I live (Denmark) it's widely available in most flyshops, but of course very expensive.

Martin

Jim,

I don't see Pete claiming to have invented the flatwing anywhere. Telling people how to tie it is no offense, or...?

We have a widespread international audience, and a lot of them will love to learn the techniques used in flatwings, and this general pattern is an excellent starting point for them.

Try traversing the web for flies looking like Wooly Buggers, Egg Sucking Leeches, Muddler Minnows, Elk Hair Caddises and whatnot, but being called something else, and you can fill pages up and pages down with "reinventions".

We reinvented the Woolly Bugger at least a dozen times on this site alone... and no harm done in that if you ask me!

Pete will be contributing more flatwings in the future, and we will be very happy to host his flies - new or reinvented.

Martin

Dundee,

To be clear: No, no reproduction of photos on websites, in brochures or other printed material.

We make one general exception, and that is reprint of articles in club newsletters and we sometimes grant permission to translate articles into other languages.

But we generally do not want to see our material other places than here.

Martin

Submitted by dundee on

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To be clear...there is no permission granted for use of a photo(s) in websites, brochures or other printed material?

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