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Stefan,

Thanks for that, and I agree with you.

I am very happy with the 3piece CTC I have been given in return for my #5 weight 6piece 3Zone. My intention with the 6 piece was that I could carry it in my rucsac, keep it close in the aircraft in case they lost my baggage containing other rods, etc. I had no problem with the action of the rod as a fishing tool, but it was just too sloppy for use with a #5 weight shooting head in the Danish salt.

I could have found plenty of other uses for the rod, but that was the use I wanted, so I now don't have the multi-piece option open to me, and a 3 piece it is. I agree with you that the 4 piece compromise is probably the best compromise when transport, convenience, and use are all considered.

Regards and tight lines to all.

Les

Les,
sure you have 4 more or less stiffer spots on a 6pc compared to a 2pc (I think 1pc is theory) and that will affect blank action ... at least in theory. But what I wanted to say is that I'm not sure if the rod with less pieces must always be the better one.
Regarding weight: A 6pc Five Rivers FTL blanks, 9', 6 wt, weighs only 45 gramms (a least on my letter scale). Compared to e.g. Sage blanks (that are blanks where I find blank weights on their website) that's a lot lighter than many 4pc blanks.
Maybe another draw back of multi piece blanks can be that the risk of loosen blank parts while fishing of 6pc at least in theory is 3 times greater than with a 2pc. But I think modern manufacturing techniques has minimized that risk in the last years.
In my eyes a 4pc rod is a good compromise.
Stefan

Submitted by 1737246398 on

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the best way is to sever the spinal column either by holding the shanks and placing thumb and forefinger around the neck and pulling or placing the birds neck on the ground and using a broom handle lay it on the neck and put one foot on either side of the bird and pull up quick,painless and then just slit throat and they bleed out good too

Tom and others,

I'm sure these flies could catch fish. I have seen fish caught on the strangest contraptions... even made a couple myself. One of my favorites is from the spinning world where an angler pulled his line through a carrot and tied a hook to it. He caught trout on that!

But these flies are so poorly made that I'm almost sure they would fall (more) apart within a few casts. Plus they're not nice to look at. The fish may not care, but I do.

Martin

Stefan,

Yes, o.k. but I know what Rolandus means. In the hand while actually fishing, the one-piece rod (theoretically) has less weight and no stiffer spots where the ferrules/joints/spigots are. so, all things being the same, its going to be a better rod.

Of course, when you try to put it in your car, or take it on the train, bus or aeroplane its going to be a d*** nuisance. There was a short-lived craze (in the 1970's) for one-piece beach-casting rods in the UK, but they were always taken to the fishing on top of a car. At 11-12+ feet long, they must have required a garage to store them!

Multi-piece rods are a boon when you want to shove the rod in a rucsac, and the modern rods seem well-designed with good actions despite all those joints. Still, with a double thickness of carbon on the overlaps, they do weigh quite a bit more, and that must affect the action compared to the "same" rod with less joints.

Regards,
Les

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Hi Martin:
I had to laugh when I read your article. You're right, of course.
However, under the right circumstances a salmon might actually take a nibble at one of these monsters.
I think that Lee Wulff in one of his articles wrote about some flies that his son had tied. They appeared to be rather crude in Wulff's eyes. Yet, they caught fish.
You never know !
Anyhow, thanks for this hilarious article.
Tom

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Hi,
there are some really nice multi piece rods on the market where I definetely wouldn't say a one piece is the better rod.
I'm sure that the "same" rod of one manufacturer with different no. of pieces isn't the same, but I'm also sure that the rod with less pieces isn't always the better one.
Stefan

Submitted by captain brian moran on

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eh gads, it certainly would make a fellow think twice about a mail order bride.

Submitted by Andriy Konovalov on

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Thanks for the fly!
Few question: what is the way of fishing this fly? Was it tried in salt water only? What about lakes or rivers?
Thanks in advance!
Andriy

Hi All,

I said that I would report on the result of my complaint to the firm that sold me a six-piece Vision 3Zone #5 rod. The firm (a LARGE one based in Glasgow, Scotland) swapped the rod for me, despite not being obliged to do so in law. :D

They sent me a 9ft Scierra CTC #5/6. A three piece, so it won't fit inside my rucsac, but it seems a lovely rod and feels like it will be able to cope with the fishing and the fish on the Danish coast next September. Bring it on! In the mean time, I'll give it a good work-out here in Devon, might even try it in the estuaries for mullet and bass next year, + anything else that'll look at a fly. Trout season is finished here till next spring :cry:

Regards,
Les

Submitted by Chris on

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I have had similar problems in the past with wading jackets in the past. I recently decided that I wasn't going to pay a fortune for a jacket and decided to have a look at the lower end of the scale. I bought a Stillwater Short wading jacket from the Glasgow Angling Centre in Glasgow, Scotland. This jacket is superb and VERY affordable. After two seasons of Scottish and Swiss weather, the jacket is still going strong and is 100% waterproof. The only drawback is the neoprane velcro cuffs...a little annoying, but a small inconveniance in such a superb jacket.

The guy in question you are refering to is: Ivar Thordal. His email is: ivar.thordal@gmail.com

The only bad thing about north Jutland is, thers are no grayling up there. There's plenty of brown trout and pretty spring fed streams.

If you want saltwater on Fyn...Give me a call or email. I can take you to a few good places in addition to Wedellsborg again, in that tickles your fancy? :?

Good hunting...Winter is going to be long this year.

Rip Van cold toes.

Welcome to the forum Ruza.

If ever you wish to experience some different areas of southern norway, don't hesistate to drop me a line.

Where abouts were you this year?

Alimar,

Welcome to you too. The forum isn't the busiest part of the site, but feel free to post anyway.

Martin

Submitted by 1737246399 on

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Agree with the name of the fly. I had a chance to hook couple of fish :)

cheers

Roolis

Submitted by Bert Brehm on

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Apparently, Maxima does not produce .011 in. (0X) (.28mm) leader material, yet many of the leader formulae call for it. I ordered an UltraGreen leader kit with dispenser spools and here is what arrived - .024 .022 .020 .017 .015 .013 .012 .010 .009 .008 .007 .006. Frustrated!

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