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I had a lot of tough times trying to figure Carp out. The best success that I have had is like this. I tie a ratty looking reddish, brownish, orangeish nymph and I weight it well. I use a long hook. Maybe 3X or longer in a size #10. I wrap .035 lead free round wire from just over the point of the hook to about an eigth of an inch from the eye to leave space for a head. I wrap over a thin layer of super glue to hold the wire from spinning. Tie on a few fibers of anything for a tail and dub something really fuzzy and light brown or orange for a body. Finish the head with some kind of light softish hen hackle of varying lengths and give it a try. There are so many things that Carp eat that live on the bottom that getting anal about tying immitations is a waste of time for me. Cast well upstream of the fish and let the fly float down and under them. Twitch it along like a big nymph struggling along in life and if they see it they will suck it up. Look at how excited I was in this picture. I peed my pants. I caught this 28 inch, fourteen pound Carp on a messy little barbless fly like the one I described.

thanks for the insight. the

thanks for the insight. the river i fish is about 40ft across at most and is usually slow flowing and relativey clear, the carp can be extremely spooky and the other day i had to drift a run full of large fish for over an hour before oi got one two pounder. it was a test of endurance and patience that no other kind of fish has been able to give me. im beggining to think that the really big ones only bitea fly under almost perfect conditions with a perfect drift.

Sorry, a problem with the

Sorry, a problem with the fotos :?

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I'm tying one as soon as I

I'm tying one as soon as I post this message. Really nice for my style of fishing.

There are so many variables

There are so many variables to your question that it is hard to answer. There are a lot more specifics to Carp fishing than I thought when I first took it up. When the mulberrys are ripe in the DC area you can find Carp waiting under the trees and a black deer hair ball about the size of a......well, mulberry, works great. I have had zero luck casting to moving fish. That is traveling fish rather than milling or tailing fish. Are the small rivers that you are talking about fast and clear or slow and muddy. Or maybe somewhere in between. Stalking them is fun but you really can spook them if you are not careful. And the jump not only at the sight of you but at the sight of line hitting the water. When they are mudding they are better targets. They are face down and concentrating on the bottom. A brownish or reddish nymph thrown into the area where they are feeding can get them. The book Carp On The Fly by Renolds, Befus and Berryman is a pretty good read. It covers a huge area of fly fishing for the Golden Bones. You can get it brand new on Amazon for as little as ten bucks. Have fun and check your backing.

thanks Randon

As it is I think thi

As it is I think this photo is way overrated. I'd say about 2, but try cutting off the right area with the pine trees so the angler appears in the golden spot. Then we'd be talking!

Another way overrate

Another way overrated pic. Only after a hard fight can you get a fish to "pose" so steady. 5 for the picture and 0 for the imagination. You get 2-3, let's say 2.